Down Syndrome - Sarah Palin's Brave Choice

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Permalink Reply by doublemam on October 9, 2009 at 10:47am

The difference between you and me is that I do see my and my son's disabilities as a chalenge. I do use a wheelchair. I have to use a speechreader, narrator and the Dragon program to be able to use the computer. Sure it is a chalenge to get around. In the winter I use an electric wheelchair. When the snow is to bad I have to stay home. I look at what I still can do not what I wish I could do. Instead of calling somebody names or call them not very bright because they don't agree with you, get a positive attitude and focus on what you can do not on what you can't do

Quesadilla said:

Maybe that's true -- of hurdles. I'm talking about disabilities. Clearly you don't understand why they are called disabilities. A disability is not the same thing as a challenge. To an AP calculus student, the final exam would be an example of a challenge. A disability means that the objective simply CANNOT BE REACHED by the afflicted individual. For example, I can drive, but not safely, or legally. I simply cannot process the information that's coming at me from all directions at 35 miles per hour (or even 5 mph, for that matter) quickly enough to avoid hitting -- for example -- cars, trees, people, sign posts, buildings. . .Believe me: YOU do NOT want me to sit behind the steering wheel of a motor vehicle. If disabilities could be overcome, there wouldn't be disability insurance, social security disability, handicap-accessible entrances, and the like. Once again, not very bright of you, doublemam.
Additionally, if any "hurdle" can be overcome, how about tweaking your attitude-problem a bit?
doublemam said:

If you have a positive outlook on life you can overcome any hurdle no matter how hard life is or will be.

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Permalink Reply by AMANDA on October 9, 2009 at 2:01pm

how in the world can you say such horrible things regarding children with downs? they are a gift from god .my 3 year old has downs and along with his 16 year old brother,are the best thing that ever happended to me! may God have mercy on your soul when you stand at the gates of heaven for such comments...thats if you make it there

Quesadilla said:

Downs kids never develop the ability to feel remorse. They usually have the ability to express remorse, but the two are far from being equal.God has a tendency to make things even (to him whom much is given, much is required, etc.) so those with Down syndrome have a natural in-born ability to manipulate others, which is how the expression of remorse is manifested. Ms. Palin (she is no longer governor of Alaska) doesn't understand this concept, which is why she chose not to have an abortion. She had four children already. Now that she's given birth this last time, she has actually done harm to the world by ushering in a sociopath (speaking as though things which shall come to pass have already passed). Down syndrome is an aberration that most parents don't understand worth squat, which is why there are still people who are willing to give birth to such babies. I understand that reproduction is a right in the United States, and for it to be a privilege would be very, very wrong. However, just because someone has a right to do something, that doesn't make doing it right.

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Permalink Reply by Quesadilla on October 10, 2009 at 9:20am

Are you HIGH? I have been incredibly blessed, and I fail to focus on my disability as negativity, but instead I choose to see all the wonderful ways in which I am actually BLESSED to have my disability. For example, my disability makes it impossible for me to get away with any lie I might try to tell; instead of working overtime to try to hold to a lie, I tell people the truth all the time. Sure, it sometimes has negative repercussions, but if someone can't accept me in all of my blatant honesty, I just note that they are too ignorant to be comfortable with being told the truth about things. YOU, for example, are not willing to accept the fact that you're not very bright, which is CLEARLY far more than an opinion; I mean, let's face it -- you can't even spell the word "challenge" correctly. I don't know how you managed to get Dragon to misspell a word in the way it apparently did. Good grief! Do me a good turn and stop razzing me about getting a positive attitude. . .I have a pretty sweet misdemeanor for a genius who's been sold a bill of goods by everyone she knew for all but a few short years of her life. Additionally, it's frustrating as all get-out to be forced to go through all of elementary and secondary school, without so much as a hint that I might have LD, while constantly showing signs all over the place that I have such. Yet, being intelligent enough to develop ways to cope with my many LDs to the point that no professional could tell that I was any different from any normal student, I still have no desire whatever to read my PSAT, SAT, and ACT scores, because I don't take my own failures lightly or with a grain of salt at all. For your further information, calling an individual a 'sociopath' does NOT qualify as name-calling. I do not use the word 'sociopath' as a proper noun -- ever. True name-calling involves unpleasant pronouns as substitutes for proper nouns and actual given monikers. Don't ever tell me to get a positive attitude, especially since you have NO concept of what I've been through to achieve what YOU wrongly consider a negative one. I am unusually acutely aware of the damnation of this world we live in, and it really irks me that most of our earth's Homo [allegedly] sapien sapien inhabitants are so vilely ignorant and delusional when it comes to areas of knowlege and wisdom that come so naturally to me. How very repugnant of you and them!

doublemam said:

The difference between you and me is that I do see my and my son's disabilities as a chalenge. I do use a wheelchair. I have to use a speechreader, narrator and the Dragon program to be able to use the computer. Sure it is a chalenge to get around. In the winter I use an electric wheelchair. When the snow is to bad I have to stay home. I look at what I still can do not what I wish I could do. Instead of calling somebody names or call them not very bright because they don't agree with you, get a positive attitude and focus on what you can do not on what you can't do

Quesadilla said:

Maybe that's true -- of hurdles. I'm talking about disabilities. Clearly you don't understand why they are called disabilities. A disability is not the same thing as a challenge. To an AP calculus student, the final exam would be an example of a challenge. A disability means that the objective simply CANNOT BE REACHED by the afflicted individual. For example, I can drive, but not safely, or legally. I simply cannot process the information that's coming at me from all directions at 35 miles per hour (or even 5 mph, for that matter) quickly enough to avoid hitting -- for example -- cars, trees, people, sign posts, buildings. . .Believe me: YOU do NOT want me to sit behind the steering wheel of a motor vehicle. If disabilities could be overcome, there wouldn't be disability insurance, social security disability, handicap-accessible entrances, and the like. Once again, not very bright of you, doublemam.
Additionally, if any "hurdle" can be overcome, how about tweaking your attitude-problem a bit?
doublemam said:

If you have a positive outlook on life you can overcome any hurdle no matter how hard life is or will be.

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Permalink Reply by doublemam on October 11, 2009 at 9:26am

Amanda you are so right. Quesadilla will never understand that God has a special goal for these little angels. And yes they are a very special gift of God.

AMANDA said:

how in the world can you say such horrible things regarding children with downs? they are a gift from god .my 3 year old has downs and along with his 16 year old brother,are the best thing that ever happended to me! may God have mercy on your soul when you stand at the gates of heaven for such comments...thats if you make it there

Quesadilla said:

Downs kids never develop the ability to feel remorse. They usually have the ability to express remorse, but the two are far from being equal.God has a tendency to make things even (to him whom much is given, much is required, etc.) so those with Down syndrome have a natural in-born ability to manipulate others, which is how the expression of remorse is manifested. Ms. Palin (she is no longer governor of Alaska) doesn't understand this concept, which is why she chose not to have an abortion. She had four children already. Now that she's given birth this last time, she has actually done harm to the world by ushering in a sociopath (speaking as though things which shall come to pass have already passed). Down syndrome is an aberration that most parents don't understand worth squat, which is why there are still people who are willing to give birth to such babies. I understand that reproduction is a right in the United States, and for it to be a privilege would be very, very wrong. However, just because someone has a right to do something, that doesn't make doing it right.

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Permalink Reply by doublemam on October 11, 2009 at 10:04am

Stop being so bitter. If you call yourself blessed why can't you see how we parents of children with dow-syndrome or other disabilities feel extremely blessed with these special angels.Iif you feel better by calling me not very bright go ahead. But it is your opinion. Just so you know. English is not my first lanquage.By the way. You don't seem to know how to spell knowledge. It must be hard to be a genius. And it must be so frustrating to be one of the few humans on this earth that are not like you say "
vilely ignorant and delusional when it comes to areas of knowledge and wisdom that comes naturally to you"
I feel sorry for you it must be hard to to be such a bitter lonely genius.

Quesadilla said:

Are you HIGH? I have been incredibly blessed, and I fail to focus on my disability as negativity, but instead I choose to see all the wonderful ways in which I am actually BLESSED to have my disability. For example, my disability makes it impossible for me to get away with any lie I might try to tell; instead of working overtime to try to hold to a lie, I tell people the truth all the time. Sure, it sometimes has negative repercussions, but if someone can't accept me in all of my blatant honesty, I just note that they are too ignorant to be comfortable with being told the truth about things. YOU, for example, are not willing to accept the fact that you're not very bright, which is CLEARLY far more than an opinion; I mean, let's face it -- you can't even spell the word "challenge" correctly. I don't know how you managed to get Dragon to misspell a word in the way it apparently did. Good grief! Do me a good turn and stop razzing me about getting a positive attitude. . .I have a pretty sweet misdemeanor for a genius who's been sold a bill of goods by everyone she knew for all but a few short years of her life. Additionally, it's frustrating as all get-out to be forced to go through all of elementary and secondary school, without so much as a hint that I might have LD, while constantly showing signs all over the place that I have such. Yet, being intelligent enough to develop ways to cope with my many LDs to the point that no professional could tell that I was any different from any normal student, I still have no desire whatever to read my PSAT, SAT, and ACT scores, because I don't take my own failures lightly or with a grain of salt at all. For your further information, calling an individual a 'sociopath' does NOT qualify as name-calling. I do not use the word 'sociopath' as a proper noun -- ever. True name-calling involves unpleasant pronouns as substitutes for proper nouns and actual given monikers. Don't ever tell me to get a positive attitude, especially since you have NO concept of what I've been through to achieve what YOU wrongly consider a negative one. I am unusually acutely aware of the damnation of this world we live in, and it really irks me that most of our earth's Homo [allegedly] sapien sapien inhabitants are so vilely ignorant and delusional when it comes to areas of knowlege and wisdom that come so naturally to me. How very repugnant of you and them!

doublemam said:

The difference between you and me is that I do see my and my son's disabilities as a chalenge. I do use a wheelchair. I have to use a speechreader, narrator and the Dragon program to be able to use the computer. Sure it is a chalenge to get around. In the winter I use an electric wheelchair. When the snow is to bad I have to stay home. I look at what I still can do not what I wish I could do. Instead of calling somebody names or call them not very bright because they don't agree with you, get a positive attitude and focus on what you can do not on what you can't do

Quesadilla said:

Maybe that's true -- of hurdles. I'm talking about disabilities. Clearly you don't understand why they are called disabilities. A disability is not the same thing as a challenge. To an AP calculus student, the final exam would be an example of a challenge. A disability means that the objective simply CANNOT BE REACHED by the afflicted individual. For example, I can drive, but not safely, or legally. I simply cannot process the information that's coming at me from all directions at 35 miles per hour (or even 5 mph, for that matter) quickly enough to avoid hitting -- for example -- cars, trees, people, sign posts, buildings. . .Believe me: YOU do NOT want me to sit behind the steering wheel of a motor vehicle. If disabilities could be overcome, there wouldn't be disability insurance, social security disability, handicap-accessible entrances, and the like. Once again, not very bright of you, doublemam.
Additionally, if any "hurdle" can be overcome, how about tweaking your attitude-problem a bit?
doublemam said:

If you have a positive outlook on life you can overcome any hurdle no matter how hard life is or will be.

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Permalink Reply by Quesadilla on October 11, 2009 at 2:58pm

To Amanda and doublemam:
You actually BELIEVE that YOU know anything about The Almighty's plan? Well, good freakin' luck. For your information, doublemam, I know better than to believe what a totally FUBAR fool (you, for example) has to say about any comment/evaluation, etc. that I may make. An angel is a messenger of the Lord; not someone who will never grow up. It is [thank you] VERY difficult to be one of the few geniuses in a world that is mostly run by imbeciles. Amanda, you think you're substantial enough an individual to judge me? Good grievin' luck to YOU! If you're such GREAT moms, why is it that you don't understand that pity (feeling sorry for) only promotes self-pity, which leads to narcissism? I've noticed that you both ignored my apology blog-entry, to all those whose feelings I had hurt with my messages. FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT: Stop gossiping about me, and cease your B- & M-ing at me.

doublemam said:

Stop being so bitter. If you call yourself blessed why can't you see how we parents of children with dow-syndrome or other disabilities feel extremely blessed with these special angels.Iif you feel better by calling me not very bright go ahead. But it is your opinion. Just so you know. English is not my first lanquage.By the way. You don't seem to know how to spell knowledge. It must be hard to be a genius. And it must be so frustrating to be one of the few humans on this earth that are not like you say "
vilely ignorant and delusional when it comes to areas of knowledge and wisdom that comes naturally to you"
I feel sorry for you it must be hard to to be such a bitter lonely genius.

Quesadilla said:

Are you HIGH? I have been incredibly blessed, and I fail to focus on my disability as negativity, but instead I choose to see all the wonderful ways in which I am actually BLESSED to have my disability. For example, my disability makes it impossible for me to get away with any lie I might try to tell; instead of working overtime to try to hold to a lie, I tell people the truth all the time. Sure, it sometimes has negative repercussions, but if someone can't accept me in all of my blatant honesty, I just note that they are too ignorant to be comfortable with being told the truth about things. YOU, for example, are not willing to accept the fact that you're not very bright, which is CLEARLY far more than an opinion; I mean, let's face it -- you can't even spell the word "challenge" correctly. I don't know how you managed to get Dragon to misspell a word in the way it apparently did. Good grief! Do me a good turn and stop razzing me about getting a positive attitude. . .I have a pretty sweet misdemeanor for a genius who's been sold a bill of goods by everyone she knew for all but a few short years of her life. Additionally, it's frustrating as all get-out to be forced to go through all of elementary and secondary school, without so much as a hint that I might have LD, while constantly showing signs all over the place that I have such. Yet, being intelligent enough to develop ways to cope with my many LDs to the point that no professional could tell that I was any different from any normal student, I still have no desire whatever to read my PSAT, SAT, and ACT scores, because I don't take my own failures lightly or with a grain of salt at all. For your further information, calling an individual a 'sociopath' does NOT qualify as name-calling. I do not use the word 'sociopath' as a proper noun -- ever. True name-calling involves unpleasant pronouns as substitutes for proper nouns and actual given monikers. Don't ever tell me to get a positive attitude, especially since you have NO concept of what I've been through to achieve what YOU wrongly consider a negative one. I am unusually acutely aware of the damnation of this world we live in, and it really irks me that most of our earth's Homo [allegedly] sapien sapien inhabitants are so vilely ignorant and delusional when it comes to areas of knowlege and wisdom that come so naturally to me. How very repugnant of you and them!

doublemam said:

The difference between you and me is that I do see my and my son's disabilities as a chalenge. I do use a wheelchair. I have to use a speechreader, narrator and the Dragon program to be able to use the computer. Sure it is a chalenge to get around. In the winter I use an electric wheelchair. When the snow is to bad I have to stay home. I look at what I still can do not what I wish I could do. Instead of calling somebody names or call them not very bright because they don't agree with you, get a positive attitude and focus on what you can do not on what you can't do

Quesadilla said:

Maybe that's true -- of hurdles. I'm talking about disabilities. Clearly you don't understand why they are called disabilities. A disability is not the same thing as a challenge. To an AP calculus student, the final exam would be an example of a challenge. A disability means that the objective simply CANNOT BE REACHED by the afflicted individual. For example, I can drive, but not safely, or legally. I simply cannot process the information that's coming at me from all directions at 35 miles per hour (or even 5 mph, for that matter) quickly enough to avoid hitting -- for example -- cars, trees, people, sign posts, buildings. . .Believe me: YOU do NOT want me to sit behind the steering wheel of a motor vehicle. If disabilities could be overcome, there wouldn't be disability insurance, social security disability, handicap-accessible entrances, and the like. Once again, not very bright of you, doublemam.
Additionally, if any "hurdle" can be overcome, how about tweaking your attitude-problem a bit?
doublemam said:

If you have a positive outlook on life you can overcome any hurdle no matter how hard life is or will be.

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Permalink Reply by Quesadilla on October 16, 2009 at 12:00am

Kristin Schoditsch Barrett:

If I am a waste of space, YOU are a waste of cells. Actually, I don't particularly care what your opinion is of me. IT is a waste of words. :) Get an intellect.

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